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Post by Reaper on Apr 14, 2009 9:21:48 GMT -5
figured this would be a good topic to start in the anythign goes section. A few of us in the founding group have already picked character names for our in costume personas. And I know a few people who will be joining us who have done so as well. So the question is, how do you find a name Galactica like? Well, you can do what it seems Glen Larson did. Go back to the early civilizations and look for a name there. Greek, Roman, Celtic, Norse, etc. All good choices. So far we have Kronus, (also used in the Series) Edan and Killian, which are both Celt. Do a google (or search engine of your choice) for names in the area you are looking to go. Be it Norse, Greek, Roman, etc. And look through the lists. If you need help, just ask, I'm asure someone here will be able to help
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Post by charybdis on Apr 14, 2009 21:28:02 GMT -5
Well, you all have heard my character name! He was the featured "killer" on the Murder on the Rising Star episode. Charybdis is the guy who killed Flt. Sgt. Ortega and then framed Starbuck.
I didn't really name myself after him specifically, but I just used it as an obsure yet known name from BSG as well as Greek mythology...
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Post by charybdis on Apr 15, 2009 9:22:18 GMT -5
I wanted to ask the founders of this group: why did you choose the name "Blackstar Squadron" for the name of this club? Any significance in the name?
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Post by Admin on Apr 15, 2009 10:40:18 GMT -5
I wanted to ask the founders of this group: why did you choose the name "Blackstar Squadron" for the name of this club? Any significance in the name? It is based off a screen play Mark has written and we were (are?)planning to make an online RPG based off his idea. Then before you knew it, this costuming club became a reality. We originally was just toying with the idea of making an RPG but then the idea of costuming our characters and role playing them at Conventions and then it hit us...why not make a costuming group...which is what we have always wanted. (Well it was either that or the heavy buzz we had from our cigars...LOL!) We have to have more meetings at Churchill’s in Old Town or at the other place in San Marcos! Who knows what we would come up with next! LOL! Lord help us! As for the actual name, Mark you need to answer this one in more detail...you tell it better than I do.
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Post by Reaper on Apr 15, 2009 12:38:36 GMT -5
Mark (monolith) and myself were talking about names for the group, and both of us liked the idea of going along the line of Black Sheep Squadron. Sort of a misfit group of pilots (which later grew to include the entire group)
We talked about opening up the main group a little, much like Colonial Defense Force did for the New BSG costuming, but decided that the Classic feel was always very limited. Even witht he Pegasus in Living Legend, There were only 3 named Squadrons in the Show. Red, Blue and Silver Spar. The idea of every area having a "battlestar" or Cruiser or somethign didn't fit the idea of us possibly being in the Rag Tag fleet itself. There is one known surviving battlestar, The Galactica. And one Unknown, The Pegasus. We wanted to fit into that.
That's the short of it.
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Post by charybdis on Apr 15, 2009 13:07:22 GMT -5
Cool. But actually, doesn't Apollo (or is it Starbuck) say that Yellow and Green squadrons are lined up and ready for a fight in Saga?? That's when Starbuck also chimes in and says that Purple and Orange squadrons also want to come along prompting the oh so funny line from Athena, "We don't have Purple and Orange squadrons!"
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Post by Admin on Apr 15, 2009 15:51:51 GMT -5
Mark (monolith) and myself were talking about names for the group, and both of us liked the idea of going along the line of Black Sheep Squadron. Sort of a misfit group of pilots (which later grew to include the entire group) That was right, I remember that conversation. The Black Sheep sounded a bit rogue and fun. Mark was sharing that with me from your guys' conversation... See someone had a more clear version on the name and the why. Thanks Ed!
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Post by charybdis on Apr 15, 2009 16:14:44 GMT -5
OK, I just watched the end of Saga of a Star World and indeed, Apollo says to Starbuck, "you'll be Red and Blue squadrons and I will be yellow and green."
So apparently, there were yellow and green squadrons, we just don't know which battlestar they were assigned to...
Starbuck does seem to make up purple and orange and given the reaction by Adama and Tigh, he did make those up, but I do think yellow and green were actual squadrons...
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Post by Reaper on Apr 15, 2009 17:52:02 GMT -5
I would say that they were actual squadrons, but not aboard the Galactica. since outside of that scene, Yellow and Green were never mentioned again. I'm sure just in the fleet we see in the beginning of Saga, There were probably at least 5 to 10 Squadrons present (1 to 2 Squadrons per Battlestar). It's very possible that later in the fight, or during the recovery elements of Yellow and Green Squadron were recovered. I forget the numbers, but when Tigh is talking to Omega about the number of Vipers recovered, a fraction of them were from the Galactica. The others had to come from somewhere else.
I also think that several Warriors from the Atlantia were aboard the Galactica, since the gambling scene is the origin of the Atlantia patch. These pilots might have been from Yellow and Green Squadron. Meaning those squadrons were aboard the Atlantia.
The Original RP origin for the Squadron was that we were based on a Cruiser or similar sized support craft, usually assigned to the galactica. But we were detached for Anti-Pirate patrols on the far edge of Colonial Space. About As far from Cimtar and Cylon space as you can go. We picked up the transmissions from the colonies and finally Adama's call to assemble the fleet. The unnamed ship and every human we could find set out to try to catch up with the Galactica.
How we will officially fit Blackstar Squadron into the storyline hasn't been set yet. It'll depend on what timeframe we want to set any "In Character" information into. Are we there during the Series? do we fit into Richard Hatch's Continuation timeframe? Or Tom DeSantos'? How does Galactica 1980 fit in? if at all? (I have an idea to include elements and I'll post those ideas when not at work lol)
the 501st had it easy, the Empire is Vast and Say you were Darth Vader's Personal Legion fit into continuity so well Lucasfilm has finally recognized that in books. (and action figures)
We are a bit more limited lol But the main draw of the squadron name was something a little more flashy then Just "Green Squadron". and I'll admit I was influenced by SilverSpar Squadron. lol
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Post by athena on Apr 15, 2009 20:53:53 GMT -5
I always loved the Pegasus story line and Silver Spar Squadron, myself. In fact, a group of my friends and I at the time formed our own Silver Spar group, and my character's name was Danae (can't go wrong with the Greek mythology! ;D)
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Post by monolith21 on Apr 15, 2009 22:37:48 GMT -5
For me, it was an identity thing. We could have gone with a color, (and we sort of did I guess) but I thought it would be cool to have a name for the Squad like "Silver Spar". That and I really dug the idea of Black sheep squadron. Threw that out there and as it turned out John and Ed were both eerily on the same track. Ed threw out "Blackstar" and it just rang true. It is something unique, doesn't tread on canon, and sounds very in universe.
We all agreed that part of the mission of this group (aside from having a blast) is to put a public face on classic Battlestar fandom. The name seems memorable enough to leave an impression. In time it will take on our own traditions. I dig that!
I think it conveys a sort of "in it for the long haul" "fight to the end" sort of feel that us old school Battlestar fans seems to have in us. That is where the whole "Fighting Faithful" bit came from that I sort of threw in there. Cheesiness be damned! The whole "keep the faith" thing has always been a moto of the classic Galactica community so I thought we could use it.
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Post by Reaper on Apr 15, 2009 22:44:32 GMT -5
I have to admit, I didcheat a little with the name Blackstar. When IO first got online and surfed the web, Battlestar was definately on my mind. And I joined a fan site based on a "what if the Galactica wasn't the only surviving Battlestar" basis. I ended up coming up with ALOT of characters on the site and wrote a few fanfics there. The Squadron my character Lt Erc (the same character essentially I've RPed since then lol) joined was blackstar Squadron. The site is long gone now, but Web Archieve still has it there, including my fics, which I thought were lost. web.archive.org/web/20070630181445/www.tic.ab.ca/~markv/Welcome.shtml
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Post by charybdis on Apr 16, 2009 11:31:08 GMT -5
I guess this goes without saying, but the club is open to Cylons right??
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Post by Reaper on Apr 16, 2009 12:48:53 GMT -5
Most definately yes, this club will accept costumes from the entire Original Classic Show
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Post by monolith21 on Apr 16, 2009 13:53:14 GMT -5
What do we call the Cylon end of things?
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Post by charybdis on Apr 16, 2009 13:55:45 GMT -5
Yeah, the Cylons need their own squadron or alliance or detachment...
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Post by Reaper on Apr 16, 2009 16:34:52 GMT -5
well, first off, we should add a Cylon forum here. in the section with the Costumes, Props and pins. For now, we can just call it Cylon (that is the name of the homeworld I believe as well.
When we get Cylons here, we can allow them to pick a name. Instead of dictating to them.
Just call them Cylons for now.
Unless you wanted to go with Tinheaded, Galmonging Cylons.
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Post by charybdis on Apr 16, 2009 16:44:39 GMT -5
Ha!! You said it!!
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Post by Admin on Apr 16, 2009 17:31:03 GMT -5
well, first off, we should add a Cylon forum here. in the section with the Costumes, Props and pins. For now, we can just call it Cylon (that is the name of the homeworld I believe as well. When we get Cylons here, we can allow them to pick a name. Instead of dictating to them. Just call them Cylons for now. Unless you wanted to go with Tinheaded, Galmonging Cylons. DONE!
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Post by GHOST on Apr 20, 2009 22:41:30 GMT -5
I really like the Blackstar Squadron moniker. Its simple and evocative. Are there any plans to do a Squadron patch?
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Post by monolith21 on Apr 20, 2009 23:08:04 GMT -5
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Post by davej on Apr 21, 2009 2:48:32 GMT -5
Sorry Sir , that linky no work for me , just sending me to google . Edit : Of course , If I get off my backside , and copy and paste , it works a charm Yep , that would be great , keeping with the theme , but making it ours .
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Post by Capt. Ares on Apr 21, 2009 9:34:17 GMT -5
yeah that would look awsome
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Post by monolith21 on Apr 21, 2009 21:46:03 GMT -5
I'm glad you dig it! I was hoping people would like the idea. Now we just need the final design!
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Post by Capt. Ares on Apr 21, 2009 22:15:24 GMT -5
I'm pretty fair with photoshop send me some of your stuff and I'll see what I can do with the design
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